Navigating the Unknowns: Living with Young Children, Part 1

In this episode, Dr. Paul Lanier has a conversation with Julie Smith and Brooklyn Crawford, Clinical Home Visitors based in eastern North Carolina about challenges families are facing with parenting young children during difficult times. This conversation is followed by one with Maxine Eichner, the Graham Distinguished Professor of Law at University of North Carolina School of Law, about federal policy changes needed to create stronger supportive systems for children and families.

Administrators, other leaders, and advocates for families and children will find this podcast most helpful.

Dr. Paul Lanier is the Wallace Kuralt Distinguished Associate Professor in the School of Social Work at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.



Dr. Paul Lanier

Associate Professor, School of Social Work

University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill


Brooklyn Crawford

Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

Easter Seals Newbern

Child First Clinician


Julie Smith

Licensed Clinician

Child First


Maxine Eichner

Professor of Law,

University of North Carolina School of Law


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The Free-Market Family: How the Market Crushed the American Dream (and How It Can Be Restored) by Maxine Eichner available at Amazon or your bookstore.

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